No seriously, my decision to never watch Game of Thrones looks better and better by the minute! What with the last night’s ep events and the new Sansa spoilers …
"I don’t even go there," and I would like to…
I’m not going to lie, I didn’t read all that. But, I just wanted to say on this subject that although rape is a terrible, terrible thing (and trust me, I would know) I like that it’s on mainstream television shows. Why? Because rape happens. Rape is a very real part of our society that is often ignored. I don’t think GoT is glamorizing or making people desensitized to rape, I think it’s bringing attention to a very real part of our current society. People watch a rape scene and they are disturbed by it on a very mental and emotional level; they are forced to think about the rape that may have occurred throughout our history and every single day, and even the consequences of that rape. As far as the rape scene in the most recent episode of GoT, it is undoubtedly rape, but Cersei appears conflicted about her feelings and what is happening, just as rape victims may often have conflicting feelings about their situation. If you’ll note, most rapes are committed by people the victim know, making it a confusing situation. Coming from a filmmaker’s perspective, I think you have to appreciate the beauty in the rawness and the horror of the situation. You have to applaud the actors that made it happen. Rape is terrible and all GoT or any movie/tv show is trying to do is make the audience really think, feel and create parallels to the real world. All filmmaking is is a daydream come to life with themes based in reality. The themes in Game of Thrones are not random, every single little thing is placed their with incredibly attention. I feel as if by not including rape scene in shows like Game of Thrones, we go back to a society that denies the existence of these events altogether. I’m curious to see how Cersei deals with it in upcoming episodes, will she be afraid of Jaime? Will her spirit be broken? Will she deny it even happened? Any possible outcome is an example of something real.
As you said, you didn’t read all of the post. The contention isn’t that rape happens and whether it should or shouldn’t be depicted in the media. I think it’s pretty clear that it should be dealt with, and dealt with on the level that simply isn’t present on this show in particular, and in our (very much rape) culture at large.
The trouble I am having with this instance of it is not that it happened (although, yes, yes I do have trouble with that), but that the director of the episode goes on record and claims that this was not rape at all! Or, “it didn’t end up being rape.” Or whatever bullshit that was coached in.
The trouble is that the creators of the show present us with is as an acceptable form of “rough love.” That this was okay. That this wasn’t really rape, because it was “choreographed” or whatever it is Alex Graves said.
The trouble is that this is not the first time the creators of this show used rape gratuitously and casually, dismissing the fallout or not showing the fallout at all.
The trouble is, they don’t seem to think what happened in that scene was all that terrible.
The trouble is that the creators talk about Cersei as a “bad woman” as if she deserved rape. As this was justified because she ought to be punished. As if rape as punishment is acceptable, as long as the victim “really, really deserves it”!
The trouble is that they talk of Jaime being all broken-up and frustrated, as if that entitles him to rape. As if that were an acceptable justification.
The trouble is that this? This isn’t addressing a social ill. This is perpetuating it.
I also did not see the commentary by the creators of which everyone is speaking of. Can I have a link of some sort?